The Happy Wanderers: Findlater’s Elgar Choir – Updated

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Findlater and the Elgar Choir posing on the steps of St. Andrew’s-Wesley United Church (First Baptist Church tower in the background). The Choir consisted mainly of teenaged girls, but a few boys whose voices hadn’t yet changed were also members. n.d. BC Archives.

Charles E. Findlater (1893-1975) founded and led the Elgar Junior Choir from 1924 until shortly before his death.¹ Until Findlater received permission from English composer Sir Edward Elgar’s daughter in 1932 (there is some disagreement as to the year; in some places, 1935 is cited) to use “Elgar” to identify the choir, it was known as the “Wesley Methodist Sunday School Choir” which later evolved to the “St. Andrew’s-Wesley United Church Junior Choir”.² According to the Canadian Encylopedia, the repertoire of the choir was drawn principally from Elgar and his British contemporaries.

The choir’s name change to Elgar, according to “The Story of the Elgar Choir”, recounted in the programme for the Choir’s 3rd Canadian Tour (1940), came about mainly due to the growth of the group in both numbers and reputation:

The Choir had steadily grown, until it became usual for a season’s enrolment to far exceed one hundred. Although the membership changed a little each year, there was always a large number of girls who had received several years’ training and were experienced junior choristers. It was apparent that from these trained singers a special demonstration group could be formed, which under good auspices, could visit other parts of the Province and carry on the work which had been so successfully begun by the Sunday School Choir. The experiment was decided upon and in 1932 the new organization was formed and named the Elgar Junior Choir, after the eminent British Composer and Master of the King’s Music, Sir Edward Elgar.³

The Choir began as a competitor in provincial and more distant music festivals. But later, the choir was considered to be of such high calibre, that they no longer engaged in competitions. They toured (at the choristers’ own expense) as a goodwill gesture and as a fund raiser during WWII for the Red Cross and other charitable organizations. I will summarize some of the Choir’s travels below (not all; most texts agree that the Choir made 13 overseas trips to some 27 countries):

  • 1934: To Chicago World’s Fair and cities in Eastern Canada (later referred to, collectively – in some texts – as the First Canadian Tour);
  • 1936: Tour to U.K. and Norway (Highlights: World’s Sunday School Convention at Oslo; Bournemouth Musical Festival, and the National Welsh Eisteddfod at Fishguard, Wales) – later called the First British Tour.
  • Early 1940s: Plans for a second British tour were cancelled due to wartime hostilities; instead, the Second Canadian Tour (1941) and the Third Canadian Tour (1942) were arranged. The object of both tours was principally to fundraise for war charities.
  • 1949: Second British Tour;
  • 1950: A local tour (of B.C. and parts of Washington state);
  • 1954/55: Tour of Europe and Britain, including appearances in: Pairs, Cologne, Dusseldorf, Holland, Belgium, and various cities in Britain;
  • 1960: First USSR tour (“the first Canadian cultural group” to visit there);
  • 1963: A Round-the-World tour, with appearances in the following places: Switzerland, East Berlin, Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Rome, Vienna, Paris, West Berlin, and “the British Isles”. Following this, C. E. Findlater apparently decided, briefly, to “retire his baton”;
  • 1971: CEF evidently picked up his baton again to lead another overseas tour by the Choir (Europe and Asia);
  • 1974: Choir’s 50th Anniversary Reunion was held at St. Andrew’s-Wesley United Church. It was estimated at the time that over 6,000 choristers (boys and girls) had been Choir members during its lifetime. (A 14th overseas trip had been planned for summer of 1974, but that seems not to have happened, presumably due to Findlater’s worsening health.) I suspect that most of the photographs in this post that are courtesy of BC Archives were originally supplied from this reunion.
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Elgar Choir touring U.K. They appear to be posed in front of Canada House in London, England. n.d. BC Archives.

Findlater was born and educated in England, coming to Canada in 1914 and settling in Vancouver in 1918. He did much of the recruitment for the Elgar Choir through his “Elgar

Vancouver Sun. 4 Oct 1963, p.3. Photograph in honour of CEF's retirement. A bit premature! Brian Kent photo

Vancouver Sun. 4 Oct 1963, p.3. Photograph in honour of CEF’s “retirement”. A bit premature! Crop of a Brian Kent photo. (The article from which this was taken was generously provided by former Elgar Choir member, Nancy Nelson (nee Haines).

School of Music”, which was established ca1935 and continued to thrive until his death. The school consisted of space in the Fairfield Building (no longer extant; at the NW corner of Granville and Pender).

Findlater was Music Superintendent of Vancouver Schools from 1928-31. He taught piano, music theory, and directed the choirs at Crofton House School. Beginning in 1941, he was Director of the choir at Vancouver College (a Roman Catholic school established by the Christian Brothers; it was/is located at Cartier and 39th Ave.). He was choir director at Knox United Church and at St. Mary’s Anglican Church (both in Kerrisdale) at different periods. And he served as a music adjudicator at music festivals across Canada.

Mrs. (Amy) Findlater, the choir director’s wife, was chaperone and ‘mother’ to the Choir. She accompanied her husband and the choir on every tour they made (she died in 1973, just two years before CEF’s passing).

Nancy Nelson (nee Haines), a member of the Choir (ca1944-54), now 81º, has a couple of anecdotes about touring with the Choir, in which the Findlaters figure prominently. Nancy’s first recollection is of the ‘special’ train car arranged to carry the the Choir across Canada:

My recollection is that Mr. Findlater told us that the Choir had a special train car from an arrangement with either CPR or CNR (probably one of their older cars that had been taken out of regular service) which was renovated to the Findlaters’ specifications.  The forward part of the car included a lavatory, a space that Mrs. F had fixed up as a kitchen (with a fridge and hot plate) and their sleeping quarters. We were not permitted to go into their end of the car. Mrs. F handled the money and she also had a list of staples – provided by our parents – so she could make sure we ate properly.

We would pull down the upper bunks and arrange the lower bunks for our sleeping arrangements and then, somehow, put them out of the way during the day when we sat facing each other over tables for travel and eating. It was ingenious to have that ‘special’ car, with it only having to be shoved in a corner of the rail yards when we were on tour and stored between tours. There were no porters, conductors or other rail personnel on our car and no dining car was required of the train company. We were completely autonomous, except for being towed around. The special car was probably Mrs. F’s brain child. She was quite a lady, and a force to be reckoned with!

We certainly didn’t travel First Class or even Business Class, by any stretch of the imagination. It was bare bones, going and coming.  But for those young singers who worked so hard studying, then auditioning, and then spent months practicing to get to go on tour with the Elgar Choir, it didn’t matter a fig!

Nancy’s other vivid memory is of preparation, near the end of the train trip, for intercontinental travel by ocean liner:

Mrs. F was a law unto herself. She didn’t want any of the choristers to get sea sick. So, 2 or 3 days before our train car arrived at Montreal, she hauled out a huge metal container and stirred up what we called ‘the witch’s brew’. I can’t tell you what it was made of, but it was pink! It wasn’t just a laxative…it was a purgative! We lined up and each of us had to drink our dose in front of her! If you barfed it up, she made you drink another. It was bitterly terrible!

There was one lavatory for the 18+ choristers and a pianist. We were running literally all night and most of the next day! Unfortunately, someone forgot to check the cupboard on the rail car before we left Vancouver to ensure we had sufficient toilet paper. So, we had to line up (again) to receive from Mrs. F our individual allotment of four squares of TP. The squares came with instructions, delivered by Mrs. F with a straight face, that we were to fold each square and use it carefully! Oh, my. It was a wild trip into Quebec!

Mrs F’s witch’s brew sure paid off, though. While some passengers were stuck in their shipboard cabins during rough weather, we Elgar choristers were all practicing our hearts out! The Findlaters were hardened and savvy travellers. They knew that the best prevention for sea sickness is to clean out the gut!

The signature song for the 1954 international tour (the one Nancy was on) was The Happy Wanderer. “We did it at the end of every performance, and we sang it again for all the kind people who came to the dock in Liverpool to see us off as Cunard’s Samaria slowly pulled away to begin our return trip to Canada. It was quite a memorable moment for everyone, I think.”

I love to go a-wandering
Along the mountain track
And as I go, I love to sing
My knapsack on my back
Music: Frank Weir. Music: Friedrich W. Moller. Lyrics: Antonia Ridge.



¹In a 1970 ad, I noticed that the Elgar Choir had changed their name to the “Eldigar Singers (formerly the Elgar Choir)”. Coast News, June 10, 1970, p. 8. What prompted this apparently very brief name change isn’t clear to me. In any event, the use of the name seems never to recur.

Note also that there were several other “Elgar” choirs based in other Canadian cities in the first few decades of the 20th century: in Winnipeg, Montreal, Brockville, Sudbury, and perhaps elsewhere. None of these seems to have been anywhere near as long-lasting  nor as renowned as the Vancouver choir, however.

²Wesley Methodist in the 1930s merged with St Andrew’s Presbyterian to become St. Andrew’s-Wesley United Church. They also moved to a different church structure. When it was a Methodist only congregation they made their home at Burrard and Robson. When it became St. Andrew’s-Wesley, they moved to Burrard and Nelson.

³City of Vancouver Archives.

ºSadly, Nancy Nelson (nee Haines) passed away in late 2021. I miss our regular correspondence. I never had an opportunity to meet her face-to-face. I’m greatly indebted to Nancy for her recollections in this post of her Elgar Choir experiences.

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7 Responses to The Happy Wanderers: Findlater’s Elgar Choir – Updated

  1. Jean says:

    I remember the 1954 tour Nancy. You were our soloist. “Every Valley Shall Be Exalted”….”Three Mummers”…. your trio fellow alumni Gay and many others. She & I were 3rds. I do remember the very large can of strawberry jam brought from home for the cross Canada journey to board ship for trans Atlantic journey.

  2. Marni (Margaret) Crossley says:

    I remember so fondly my time with the Elgar Choir and the wonderful experience of travel at the age of 16! Reading this has brought back so many memories of our trip in 1954! The one memory I will never forget is watching g a 3D movie in Montreal!!! Also the trip across the ocean on the Saxionia and Corinthia, coming home at the end of the tour in that hurricane! I had the privilege of looking after the 3 youngest choristerswhich was always fun! My greatest joy is my friendship, still today with the chorister I was billeted with in Dublin! I have had the privilege of visiting with Mary and her family 3 times over the years! I am forever indebted to my parents for enabling me to be part of this great choir and to Mr and Mrs Findlater for allowing us to be ambassadors for Canada!
    Marni Anfield ( Crossley ) , Ottawa

  3. Heather Cooper says:

    I was on the 1962 tour, whose route sounds like the one said to be 1963. I think it was the first tour that flew rather than took trains and ships. It seemed very brave to be visiting East Berlin (through Check Point charlie!) only a year after the Wall went up, also to visit several cities in the USSR at the height of the Cold War. I remember pictures and statues of Lenin everywhere. Thee were 25 girls and 5 boy sopranos in our group, picked from all over BC. I sure remember drinking “Pinkie”! We felt very unfashionable in our black Lisle stockings and Cuban heels in 1962! I still have my trip diaries, complete with favourite sayings by both of the Findlaters lol. It was a fabulous adventure and I kept my suitcase autographed by all the kids for years.
    Heather Cooper (nee Clark)

  4. A Hewitson says:

    I have found a programme from the second British Tour of 1949. Lots of photographs in it. I was about to throw it out but if anyone wants it they are welcome. I’m in the UK.

  5. Adriane Carr says:

    It’s super exciting to read about the Elgar Choir. But the “grand-daddy” round-the-world tour (which Mr. Findlater called it) is missing from this history. It was in 1964, had ambassadorial status and included choirists from around BC. I was the youngest – just 12 – and from Nelson. We prepared with intensive weeks of practice at Christmas and Easter, and then daily practice for the first leg of our trip, by ship from Vancouver to Hawaii, to Japan, to Hong Kong. I still remember singing Sakura with Japan’s national children’s choir on TV! From Hong Kong we travelled by plane, met royalty in Thailand, ate at the Presidential Palace in Delhi, visited Beirut before the war (it was such a beautiful city, but we couldn’t go swimming because it was “unseemly” to bare our bodies so much). We also met the Queen Mother in England. I, too, remember the ghastly “pinkie”. But what an amazing experience. I credit that tour with shaping me forever in my love of our world, different cultures and music. Adriane Carr ( now a Vancouver City Councillor).

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